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gusior82
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15.03.2011, 13:42

mam prośbę a zarazem pytanie, jeśli ktoś z Was wie coś więcej o obywatelstwie brytyjskim- tzn. jego uzyskaniu.
Czytałam co nieco na stronie UK Home Office Border Agency (zakładka)- citizenship ale jak dla mnie są tam nieścisłości.
Sprawa wygląda następująco:
jestem w UK 6 lat, pracuje i uczę się
WRS mam tez od 6 lat
zdałam ostatnio egzamin z "Life in the UK"

mam pytanie o dwie sprawy:
1. leave to remain- jeśli dobrze przeczytałam Polacy obecnie mają już automatycznie po 5 latach
2. permanent resident- czy potrzebuje jakiś dokument na to? czy to jest jakoś automatycznie?

Jeśli wiecie co nieco odnośnie w/w tematu będę wdzięczna, pozdrawiam.

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#162114.11.2016, 13:16

#Opium

Tak, jak napisali poprzednicy. Telefon do HO, NCS sprawdzi albo złóż SAR. Pewnie najszybciej będzie NCS, jeśli umowisz się na sprawdzenie aplikacji o naturalizacje, to oni dzwonią do HO i sprawdzaja datę uzyskania rezydentury. Z tym, że ta usługa kosztuje. Nawet jeśli ktoś się nie zdecyduje na wysłanie aplikacji do HO, to rozumiem że opłaty za NCS nie zwracają.

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#162215.11.2016, 09:36

Dzwonilam do HO, powiedzieli, ze jesli mialam wazny WRS i zlozylam papiery na 2007-2015, to na pewno rezydenture mam juz od 2012.

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#162315.11.2016, 10:41

Uwazacie, ze to wystarczy?

worph
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worph 68
#162415.11.2016, 13:00

Opium napisz koniecznie jak potoczyla sie twoja sytuacja, pozdrawiam

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#162515.11.2016, 13:19

worph, nie rozumiem, co chcesz wiedziec?

worph
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worph 68
#162615.11.2016, 16:48

czy bezproblemowo wydali rezydenture za pierwsze piec lat nie wliczajac kolejnych, tez chcialbym postapic tak jak na tym forum i nie chcialbym czekac kolejny rok na mozliwosc aplikowania dopiero za rok (jestem od 6 lat na wyspach)

klaudia99
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#162715.11.2016, 19:57

tez bym chciala i nie za bardzo wiem jak sie za to zabrac

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#162816.11.2016, 10:55

ladybird?

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#162916.11.2016, 13:57

opium?

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#163016.11.2016, 16:50

ladybird

Opium

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Opium

#1622Wczoraj - 09:36

Dzwonilam do HO, powiedzieli, ze jesli mialam wazny WRS i zlozylam papiery na 2007-2015, to na pewno rezydenture mam juz od 2012.

#1623Wczoraj - 10:41

Uwazacie, ze to wystarczy?

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#163116.11.2016, 19:06

Najlepiej, żebyś miała na piśmie.

A skoro chcesz aplikować o naturalizacje już teraz, to skorzystaj z NCS. A jak słyszałam, oni dzwonią do HO, żeby sprawdzić datę uzyskania PR.

Ja bym nie wierzyla w to, co jakiś doradca powiedział na infolinii.

Wszystkie sprawy, o jakie pytałam HO to były e-maile, raz nawet wysłałam list poczta. Odpowiedz miałam na piśmie, mogłam wydrukować i się na to powołać.

To twój obowiązek, żeby być pewna, czy kwalifikujesz się do uzyskania obywatelstwa.

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#163216.11.2016, 20:39

NCS czyli???

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#163416.11.2016, 20:41

Nie ma ich oddzialu tu gdzie mieszkam, mozna to zrobic telefonicznie?

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#163517.11.2016, 09:30

Nie można telefonicznie. Cała idea polega na tym, że oni sprawdzaja aplikacje, kopiują dokumenty i oddają ci oryginały. Wszystkie papiery wysyłają special delivery do HO. Oczywiście nie gwarantują ci, ze kwalifikujesz się do obywatelstwa.

Moim zdaniem warto wydać na opłatę i skorzystać, ale jak ktoś nie chce, to może sam wysłać wszystkie oryginalne dokumenty prosto do HO.

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#163617.11.2016, 09:37

Ladybird, mnuie na razie chodzi o dowiedzenie sie o te date uzyskania przeze mnie rezydentury, karte dostalam neibieska, nie wiem kiedy zaczelo sie moje prawo do rezydentury... wkur....ace to wszystko

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#163717.11.2016, 09:51

Na jaki mail pisac do HO?

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#163817.11.2016, 12:28

E-mail znajdziesz na ich stronie. Google.

Zobacz też SAR

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/requests-for-personal-data-uk...

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#163917.11.2016, 12:43

Napisalam maila na adres znaleziony na stronie, przyszla automated response jedynie.

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#164017.11.2016, 14:27

No i co jest napisane w tym automated response? Moze jest podany adres email, tylko inny niz ten, na ktory pisalas? Przeklej tutaj te odpowiedz od nich.

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#164117.11.2016, 15:47

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Opium
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Opium 2 011
#164217.11.2016, 15:48

Wyslalam wiec nastepnego maila pod adres:

[email protected]

Opium
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Opium 2 011
#164322.11.2016, 10:33

I odpowiedz:

Thank your for your enquiry.

Depending on your current citizenship or nationality, you may be able to apply in several ways. You should read the requirements for each type of application that is relevant and decide which is best for you. If you are unsure if you meet the requirements, you may want to take professional advice from a solicitor or from an immigration adviser registered by the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC).

You can apply for British citizenship by naturalisation if:

• you’re 18 or over

• you’re of good character, e.g. you don’t have a serious or recent criminal record

• you’ll continue to live in the UK

• you’ve met the knowledge of English and life in the UK requirements

• you’ve been granted indefinite leave to stay in the UK (or permanent residence if you’re an EEA national) - this means there’s no specific date that you have to leave

• you meet the residency requirement

And you must usually have:

• lived in the UK for at least the 5 years before the date of your application

• spent no more than 450 days outside the UK during those 5 years

• spent no more than 90 days outside the UK in the last 12 months

• been granted indefinite leave to stay in the UK (or permanent residence if you’re an EEA national) - this means there’s no specific date that you have to leave

• had indefinite leave to stay in the UK for the last 12 months (or permanent residence if you’re an EEA national)

• not broken any immigration laws while in the UK

There are different requirements if your spouse or civil partner is a British citizen.

If you are a national of a country in the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland, or you are the family member of such a person, you will automatically have permanent residence status if you have exercised EEA free-movement rights in the UK for a continuous five-year period ending on or after 30 April 2006. You do not need to apply for leave to remain. You should have held permanent residence status for 12 months before you apply for naturalisation.

Further information regarding naturalisation as a British Citizen can be found at the following website links;

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www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-to-naturalise-as-a-britis...

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One of the requirements for naturalisation as a British citizen is that a person is free of immigration time restrictions on the date of application. In addition, a person who is not married to or the civil partner of a British citizen needs to be free of immigration time restrictions for a period of 12 months before applying. For many immigration routes a person can become settled in the UK after 5 years, which means that their qualifying period for citizenship is effectively 6 years.

A person who has been residing in the UK in accordance with the EEA Regulations acquires permanent residence in the UK after a period of 5 years. An EEA national can obtain evidence that they are permanently resident in the UK by applying for a document certifying permanent residence. Their non-EEA national family members can apply for a permanent residence card as evidence of their status. There is no provision within the EEA Regulations to require an EEA national or their family member to apply for and obtain such a document as evidence of their right to reside: permanent residence is automatically acquired as a matter of fact if a person satisfies the requirements, irrespective of whether or not they have a document to prove it. In practice, however, many third country nationals apply for EEA residence documentation to provide evidence of their right to work. An employer may accept alternative evidence but this will not provide a statutory excuse against civil penalties should the individual be subsequently found ineligible to work.

We recently amended the British Nationality Regulations to require a person applying for naturalisation to provide a permanent residence document if they wish to demonstrate that they have settled status on the basis of EEA law. This was because when an EEA national or their family member applied for citizenship, and did not have a permanent residence document, UKVI caseworkers had assess whether the person had permanent residence as part of the citizenship consideration, which was time consuming, often complex and often significantly delayed consideration of the application. We are not mandating that a person has to have a permanent residence card under the EEA Regulations, only if they want to establish their status under those Regulations for the purpose of applying for British citizenship.

This change brings EEA applicants in line with other applicants, who apply for citizenship following a period of residence under the Immigration Rules and have to show that they are free of immigration time restrictions before applying. Many EEA nationals and their family members will have already obtained evidence of permanent residence to demonstrate their right to work or reside in the UK, but even for those who have not, the obligation to obtain a permanent residence document is not an onerous one, and the EEA route as a whole is far less burdensome than acquiring citizenship having resided under the Immigration Rules.

A person acquires permanent residence following 5 years’ residence in accordance with the EEA Regulations, not on the date they obtain a residence card. We would therefore encourage a person who has been resident in the UK for some time to send evidence that they were resident in the UK for a 5 year period ending at least 12 months before they want to apply for citizenship, so that they can meet the relevant requirement. This will mean that they can then immediately apply for citizenship. The date that they were deemed to have acquired permanent residence will be recorded on UKVI’s database and so will be clear to the nationality caseworker. We have amended our customer guidance to try and make this easier to understand for potential applicants.

The AN now states:

If you are a national of a country which is a member state of the EEA or Switzerland, or the family member of such a person, you will automatically have permanent residence status after exercising EEA free movement rights in the UK for any continuous period of 5 years ending on or after 30 April 2006. You should apply for a permanent residence card to prove that you hold that status before applying for citizenship.

But remember that, unless you are married to or the civil partner of a British citizen, you should normally have held permanent resident status for 12 months before applying for naturalisation. This means that you may need to wait until you have been in the United Kingdom for 6 years before you can apply. When you apply for a permanent residence document the evidence that you supply for your EEA(PR) application must be for a 5 year period that ended at least a year before you want to apply for citizenship.

For example:

If you apply for Permanent Residence on 1st December 2015 and want to apply for Citizenship once that application is decided, you should send evidence that shows you were exercising Treaty rights as a qualified person or family member from 1 December 2009 to 1 December 2014.

Regards

M Goode

Central Correspondence team

Customer Service Operations

UK Visas and Immigration

www.gov.uk/ukvi

Pawq69
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#164409.01.2017, 12:19

Witam.

Mam lekki problem i potrzebuję małych konsultacji.

Mam praktycznie gotowy wniosek do wysłania o naturalizację. Jednak bardziej niż na sobie zależy mi na papierach dla dzieci. Jednak jak zasiadłem do aplikacji MN1 to nie wiedziałem od czego zacząć. Oboje dzieci rodzone były w Polsce.

Czy można ich wnioski o rejestrację wysłać oddzielnie. To znaczy: zakladamy że moja aplikacja została rozpatrzona pozytywnie. I tak ja mam obywatelstwo. Żona ma PR. Czy niestety dzieci urodzone w Polsce mogą być rejestrowane tylko za pomocą tzw. aplikacji rodzinnej?.

Bo z różnych powodów wolałbym swoją aplikację wysłać odzielnie.

Na przyklad nigdy nie miałem WRS. A jednak kartę PR po wytłumaczeniu i udowodnieniu dlaczego, dostałem. Tyle tylko że wtedy ryzykowałem 65 funtów. A w aplikacji MN1 jest pytanie o numer WRS rodzica.

Aha jeszcze jedno jak długo muszą dzieci przebywać w UK żeby można je zarejestrować?

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#164509.01.2017, 13:33

#Pawq69

Registration at the Home Secretary’s discretion – Section 3(1) application

Children born abroad to parents who are applying for British citizenship

Where one or both parents are applying for British citizenship they may apply for one

or more children who are not automatically British at birth (see “Automatic acquisition

of British citizenship” above) to be registered as British citizens as part of a “family application”. Children in this category will be considered at the Home Secretary’s discretion and will usually be registered only if both the parents are granted or already hold British citizenship, or if one parent holds British citizenship and the other is settled in the UK.

Any other child born to British or non-British parents.

It is not possible to cover all circumstances under which the Home Secretary might exercise discretion in circumstances not already described in this guide. However, in considering any application not specifically covered above consideration will be given to:

The child’s connections with the UK – we would expect the child to be free of any restrictions on his or her stay in the UK

Where the child’s future is likely to lie

The parents’ views

The parents’ nationality and immigration status – we expect either both parents

to be British citizens or one parent a British citizen and the other parent settled

in the UK.

Whether the child is of good character

The length of time the child has lived in the UK – we expect at least 2 years

residence (particularly if the child is over the age of 13)

Any compelling circumstances..

The way that discretion may be exercised is described in the Nationality Staff

Instructions available for viewing on the Gov.uk website.

Please note that these are for the guidance of trained nationality caseworkers and do not constitute a definitive set of criteria for registration. They must be taken as a whole. The fact that children may satisfy certain criteria does not mean they will be registered if there are other criteria that they do not satisfy.

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#164609.01.2017, 13:38

Moim zdaniem nie ma obowiązku, że musisz aplikować i ty i dzieci razem.

Zobacz podane cytaty.

Żeby zarejestrować dzieci urodzone w Polsce jeden rodzic MUSI mieć obywatelstwo brytyjskie, a drugi PR. Jeśli ty aplikujesz pierwszy, to wydłuży się czas całej aplikacji, bo zanim dostaniesz odpowiedz może minąć i pół roku.

Ile lat mają dzieci i od kiedy mieszkają w UK?

Jeśli masz wątpliwości co do tego, czy aplikować razem z dziećmi czy osobno a potem dzieci, to napisz maila do HO.

Ja napisałam, jak ja rozumiem podany cytat.

aijk
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aijk 40
#164709.01.2017, 17:11

Witam Klilka pytanek:

Jesli nie posiadam payslipow to wystarczy P60?

Jakie daty wpisc gdy pytaja o wyjazdy. Nie pamietam dokladnych dat sprzed 10 lat.

Dzieki za opowiedz.

Ladybird
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Ladybird 808
#164809.01.2017, 20:56

#aijk

P60 powinny wystarczyć.

Wyjazdy wpisujesz za okres, który ujmujesz w aplikacji. Jeśli rezydentura to 5 lat. Nie trzeba wyjazdów z 10 lat wpisywać.

branik
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branik 178
#164909.01.2017, 21:46

ja wysylalem p60, a z tymi uropami to tez nie pamietalem dokladnych dat, podalem w przyblizeniu i wszystko przeszlo bez klopotow

moniczkagl
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#165010.01.2017, 07:40

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